By Sebastian Lorenz Posted at March 8, 2000 - 6:00 AM GMTWelcome back to another exiting week at the Community Profiles!
You know Sev Trek, the weekly Star Trek comic spoof? Well, probably, since it is the most successful parody on the internet, available in more than 20 languages (even klingon and vulcan). I talked to the master of all Sevs, cartoonist John Cook, who gives some insights on how everything evolved, gives an outlook at the upcoming Sev movie and more. Check out the home of Sev Trek and many more Sevs at the Sev Wide Web.
Sebastian Lorenz: First of all, who are you? How old and from where?
John Cook: Who are you? Sounds very Babylon 5. I'm a 28 year old Australian
cartoonist.
Sebastian: Married?
John: Yes, I've been married to my wife Wendy for nearly 6 years. We just
had a beautiful baby Gabrielle 4 months ago.
Sebastian: Congratulations! With a third member of your family, how did that change your daily routine, or your life? (if that is not a too private question...)
John: I don't mind talking about Gaby at all. In fact, most people try to
STOP me talking about her! The first few weeks of our lives were very disruptive
and I didn't get much work done. However, we've settled into a nice rhythm
now. Wendy left her graphic design job to go on maternity leave which is a
bonus for me as she is a whizz with computers and colours all my cartoons
now. One of my favourite things about being a cartoonist working from home
is I get to spend all day with Gaby while I work so I get to see many of
the first things she does that a lot of other fathers might miss.
Sebastian: When did you get started with Sev Trek?
John: I published my first Sev Trek cartoon on the internet in about 1995.
The
actual idea probably originated several years earlier as doodles in my
ideas book.
Sebastian: I'm doing cartoon drawings myself and from what I've experienced,
my "doodles" :) looked very different a few years ago from what they
look today. Has it been the same with your little Sevies?
John: Yes, in subtle ways. When I look at the cartoons I drew back then, I
cringe
because my characters look like wooden blocks with eyes. Nowadays, I try to
put much more fluidity in my drawings (my general rule is to avoid drawing
any straight lines) so although it's a subtle thing, to me I see a big
difference.
Sebastian: Is there anything that you don't like to draw in your comic
strips?
John: Yes, technical stuff like cars - I am unfortunately *hopeless* at
cars.
Speaking of past cartoons, this week Wendy was colouring one of the very
first Twist cartoons I drew featuring giraffes driving a convertible. The
car looked like a block of wood with wheels - horrible stuff!
Sebastian: Sev...hum...sounds pretty neat. Where does the name come from?
John: Sev is a word a friend of mine from high school used all the time.
When
I asked him where he got it from, he couldn't remember. I don't know why
but the word just stuck with me and later started using it with my cartoons
(Sev Trek, the Sev Files, Sev Wars, Sevylon 5, etc). I had no idea how
much it would take off.
Sebastian: What does it mean?
John: As for the meaning, well, I can't reveal that. Not for any particular
reason other than I love infuriating everyone who wants to know! :-)
Sebastian: Not even for us?
John: Well, sure, if you promise noone ever reads this interview :-)
Sebastian: Will you ever reveal the meaning of "Sev"?
John: Actually, yes. I have this cartoon called the Sevloid Chronicles which
is
an original scifi story (eg - not a parody of anything) set in the Sevloid
Galaxy. I've actually written a story where the main characters go in
search of the origin of their Galaxy's title. Well, I haven't written the
whole story - mainly just the ending where they finally find out what it
means. It's a funny scene but it will be a long time before I get around to
publishing it.
Sebastian: How long does it take to you to draw and edit a comic strip
until you've got the final version?
John: It takes about half an hour to an hour to pencil a comic strip.
Sometimes it can take a little longer if I have to caricature new
characters. It
takes another 15 to 30 minutes to ink in the comic strip. Then I hand it
over to Wendy who converts it into computer format and colours it - it
usually takes her about half an hour to do that. So a single comic strip
on average is about 90 minutes work.
Sebastian: How do you get the ideas? Do they just come while watching an
episode
or do sit down and think?
John: Depends on what you're talking about. For my scifi comic strips, I get
a
stream of ideas sent to me so I usually choose from there. Add the fact
that all the punchlines are written by readers means they're probably the
only cartoon that has more writers than comic strips!
For The Pits and Twist, usually Wendy and I sit down and nut out ideas
together. Wendy writes most of the Twist these days as writing single panel
cartoons is very difficult for me - I'm much better at writing dialogue and
stories.
Often when writing scripts and stories, I get ideas while watching shows
but more often, ideas leap into my head while reading online reviews of
episodes or weird punchlines submitted in my cartoon competitions. But the
most effective way of thinking of ideas seems to be while doing chores -
the dishes, driving, showering - anytime when my mind is free to wander.
Sebastian: Is there actually a comic you've drawn which you don't like that
much?
John: One of my many flaws is I'm a very lazy drawer so unfortunately, there
are many cartoons that I've drawn that I feel I could've done better. Only
on rare occasion do I redraw a cartoon if I don't like it. Certainly my
worst cartoons are my early ones (so at least I am improving). In fact, I
was
looking through my oldest Pits comics recently and found it ironic that
they were my worst drawn strips while also being some of the funniest.
If I had the time and inclination, I'd probably redraw them. :-)
However, this year, I have resolved to make more effort with my drawing.
In fact, I have just started drawing a new Sev Files book and it's the
first cartoon I'm really making a big effort to draw well (I've been
pencilling Page 1 on and off for over a week now).
Sebastian: A book? You mean a real book made from paper?
John: Yes, as real as you and me :-)
Sebastian: How do you know? ;) Anyway.You said, you are drawing a "new
book"?
Has there been a first one? Where published? (I beg your pardon but I
haven't seen
a Sev Trek book here in Germany, so...;)
John: I've published a Sev Trek book called "The Sev Trek Collective" which
is a
collection of all the comic strips over the first couple of years of Sev
Trek's history. I also drew a number of cartoons specially for the book
(including "Send in the Clones", a Voyager parody which is my favourite Sev
Trek story so far). At the moment, you can buy it off my website. I haven't
got around to organising distribution in overseas countries yet - sorry!
Sebastian: How many hits does your website get?
John: It's getting about 350,000 visitors a month at the moment. I've been
spending much of my time lately on promoting the web site and building
my hits.
Sebastian: Building your hits? What, you want MORE? :)
John: Yes, I'm crazy that way. Webmasters tend to be greedy for visitors -
goes
with the job. :-)
Sebastian: If you look back to the beginning, have you ever
expected that Sev Trek would ever become as popular as it is now?
John: I had *no* idea. Sev Trek was originally just miscellaneous doodles in
my ideas book written for my own pleasure. I never expected them to be
publishable or marketable. This was before the idea of cartooning online
even occured to me so my only avenue for selling my comic strips was to
newspapers. I knew they would never be interested in such a special
interest cartoon.
It was only when I published them on the internet that Sev Trek
exploded.
I really lucked onto something special with it but the best thing of all
is I'm doing a cartoon about something I enjoy.
Sebastian: That is good. Did you start up at your current server sev.com.au?
John: No, I started at some place in Canada that offered free webspace. But
it
was very impractical - to update the website, I had to email the changes
then wait for several days for them to upload them. Then I got a free
website with my dialup account (notice this theme of me trying to get
everything for free - I'm notoriously stingy). But I finally caved and
forked out the money to get my wn server. It was worth it though - it
allows me to put a lot more interactivity in the site. In fact, I'm
converting my whole site into ASP at the moment ( a HUGE task) which gives
me much more flexibility than the usual HTML.
Sebastian: Tell us something about the upcoming movie...no..tell us ALL
about it.;)
John: It's moving slowly but steadily. I had no idea just how much work was
involved. We spent what seemed an eternity just working on the models,
the props and the sets before we could even start animating. Finally, a few
weeks ago we started animating the first scene. It's starting to get
very exciting seeing the story take shape on the screen.
Wally's voice impersonations of Picard and Data are just brilliant - you
would swear Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner were doing the voices!
We're still deciding on the musician who will compose the soundtrack and
theme
music but the half dozen we're choosing from are all very talented. Our
plan is to release the first trailer of the movie in May at the Friends
of Science Fiction convention in Sydney and on the internet shortly after.
I'll be posting more pics and info on the Sev Trek movie page on a
regular basis.
Sebastian: Will it be a movie for the internet, tv, big screen? How will it
be
released?
John: Although we will be releasing trailers on the internet, the final
movie is
being made for TV. Initially we will release it on video but I hope that
eventually we'll sell it to a TV channel somewhere and hopefully be given
the opportunity to make many more episodes (I've already started developing
future storylines).
Sebastian: Are you a Star Trek Fan (obviously ;)?
John: Of course. I'm a fan of most science fiction and am basically a nerd
at
heart (hey, I did study astrophysics at uni). Wendy thinks I've got a
bit of a scam going here - I get to draw cartoons and write about stuff I
love anyway - it's like doing a hobby all day long! :-)
Sebastian: How did you become one?
John: Well, that's going back. I seem to remember watching TNG during uni so
that's probably when I became a diehard fan.
Sebastian: Your favorite Star Trek show?
John: A few weeks ago, I would've said I like all four shows equally,
they're
all different from each other and you can't compare them. However, just
lately I've been watching a lot of TNG episodes (research for the Sev Trek
movie) and I realised just how good a show it was - so I'd definitely say
The
Next Generation is the best show. The character interaction, particularly in
the later seasons, is very watchable.
Sebastian: The worst Star Trek show?
John: Tough one to pick, this. You can't really compare TOS to Voyager.
Voyager has incredible production values and special effects compared to the
cardboard sets of TOS, but some of the scripts in TOS were original and
ahead of their time.
Sebastian: Some other shows, movies you enjoy?
John: When Sev Trek became popular, I got a lot of emails from Babylon 5
fans
urging me to start watching the show. I finally caved and over a lengthy
period, watched the whole 5 year series. By the end of the second
season, I was completely hooked and Babylon 5 is by far my favourite sci-fi
show
even over Star Trek. This will probably invoke the wrath of some Star Trek
fans but I consider Deep Space 9 a watered down version of Babylon 5 - the
sheer scope and depth of the 5 year arc just blew me away.
Sebastian: Do you own a starfleet uniforn or some other merchandising?
John: I must say I'm not really into uniforms or nick-nacks. The only
merchandise I collect is the Star Trek Fact Files and that's more for visual
reference for my cartoons. Oh and a whole bunch of Star Trek books (mostly
Making
Of type books) but again, I consider that almost research.
Sebastian: Have you ever been contacted by any guys over at the Paramount
department? :-)
John: Never. Been asked a lot if I have been but it's never happened.
Is it actually legal for you to draw comic of Star Trek or other copyright
protected material?
You have a license for doing that?
I don't need a license. What I do is parody, it's just like any of those
comedy shows that parody other shows. As long as I don't rip off their
storylines, use their original artwork or pass my stuff off as official
Star Trek stuff, what I'm doing is completely legal.
Sebastian: Your comics are popular around the world
and available in various languages. You give licenses to foreign
webmasters to translate and publish the comics is that right?
John: Well, yes, although not quite as formal as that - I get emails from
overseas readers volunteering to translate into their native language and I
reply saying "go for it!" I get a big kick out of seeing my cartoons in
other languages.
Sebastian: In how many different languages is Sev Trek available anyway?
John: At least 22 languages at the moment. The weird thing is they have even
been
translated into Klingon and Vulcan (which are real languages). Even weirder
is when I get emails from Klingon linguists pointing out inconsistencies in
the Klingon translations!
Sebastian: Got contacted by famous people?
John: No but I have met Star Trek actors at the conventions I frequent. I'm
not much of a collector but one thing I do collect is signatures. I have a
growing pile of my original Sev Trek artworks with the actor's signature
on them. One day I hope to frame them all and cover a wall with them.
Sebastian: You have a favorite star trek character?
John: Hmm. In TOS, Kirk is my favourite character to spoof - that man is a
parody goldmine! In TNG, I most enjoy watching Data - Brent Spiner is a
great
actor and really gives the character a charm and naivete that is fun to
watch. In DS9, probably Weyoun for sheer character. And Voyager, well,
you can't go past Seven now, can you? On a purely acting level, of course!
:-)
Sebastian: quote?
John: "There are four lights" is my favourite line from all the Trek series
(of course, it's the context and the delivery that makes it special)
Sebastian: Yeah, that was a good episode. Speaking of episodes, you have
a favorite one?
John: DS9's "The Visitor" is my favourite episode by far. I'm a little
embarrassed to admit it but I did have a good blubber when I watched
it - it's the only Trek episode that has moved me that much.
Sebastian: What do you think of the franchise's future?
With Voyager leaving the air in 2001-Should they give it rest or
launch three new shows or something? :)
John: Hard to say - it really depends on how good the new show is. On
current
trend, I'd say the franchise' future doesn't look good as Star Trek in
general seems to be losing momentum and quality. They'd be better off
giving the francise a rest for a couple of years but that's not going to
happen. But you never know, maybe they'll surprise us and make a cracker
jack show. After all, who would've thought TNG would emerge as such a
success?
Sebastian: Three favorite Star Trek websites.
John: To be honest, the only Star Trek sites I visit regularly are review
sites - psiphi.org and Jim Wright's Voyager reviews. Dare I add Sev Trek as
my
third web site? I do visit it fairly regularly :-)
Sebastian: 350.000 times a day? I see...:)
Three favorite SciFi sites.
John: Actually, I do visit a lot of Star Wars rumour sites - I'm trying to
keep informed about Episode 2 to help with a Sev Wars parody we may put into
the Sev Trek movie. The sites I visit the most are supershadow.com, episodeii.com and TheForce.net.
Sebastian: Three favorite misc sites.
John: The one site I do visit daily is TheOneRing.net - a rumour site about
the upcoming Lord of the Rings movie (which I'm anticipating even more than
Episode 2). Other than that, I must confess I don't do much web surfing
these days - too busy creating my own web pages :-)
Sebastian: How long will you keep going with Sev [whatever]? Did you already
decide "I'm outta here in five years" or will you keep on doing that
until...you know?
John: Getting to draw cartoons all day is like a dream fulfilled so I plan
to
keep cartooning forever. I have many, many stories I'd like to tell but
with the website keeping me busy, it seems it will take a very long time to
get them all out so I hope to continue drawing indefinitely.
Sebastian: Any other future plans?
John: My long term plans (God willing, of course) are to finish the Sev
Files book and the Sev Trek movie sometime this year. Then I hope to do a
second
Sev Trek book and an assortment of books of my other cartoons. After that,
I have no idea - I seem to get pulled into unexpected directions (like the
Sev Trek movie) quite regularly so who knows where I'll be in a year's
time. Ideally, I'd love to eventually produce a series of Sev Trek TV
episodes.
Sebastian: Well, now that really is a big plan. Sev Trek on TV.
Good luck with that, I probably am not the only one looking forward to it.
Thanx for the interview, I really appreciate it. Sebastian Lorenz writes regular interviews with leading figures in the online Star Trek community. He is also webmaster of Germany's No.1 Voyager website, Voyager Central, as well as co-editor of Europe's biggest sci-fi newsletter, the German-language Corona.
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